Thread: Death Spells - Would you ever?

I own a copy of that. Most of those rituals require a massive amount of other trinkets (like silver with the deity's name engraved into it by your own hand, left in total darkness and wrapped in silk - then placed in the moon light every night in order to absorb the lunar energies of Sin-Nanna).

If he so happened to have called upon one of them, he probably didn't read all the warnings and other points of how to perform the rituals at the very back of the book. If anything, the spirit is probably not even the proper spirit he called forth from beyond the gates (There are so many stories of this occurring, it isn't even funny), because those formulas are very specific and tend to be very potent... don't forget calling upon those particular spirits at the proper time of the day, the specific days of the year, etc.

forgot to mention also that if this guy really did unleash one of them and didn't give the proper sacrifices... or used common sense (for example, most spirits if you unleash them aren't always going to want to go back to imprisonment.)

They may have sought to kill him or everyone in his life. Especially Xastur... she's quite a sadist.

Originally Posted by AhronGaze

Go ahead and try it. See what happens.

I'm not intending to do one, this was intended to be a more ethical discussion.

In short, yes I would. I will be honest, I am no believer in the Karma, but there are some hangups. I would never curse for revenge, not because i don't believe in revenge(quite the opposite), but because we are dealing with intangable forces. If I wanted to get back at some guy who stole my girlfriend, cast a curse, and he gets into a car accident, he isn't going to think "O man, I shouldn't have stolen that guy's girlfriend", which is what you want with revenge. You want to teach a lesson. The only times when I would advise casting a curse is when A.) your desire for revenge calls for the death of a human being, B.) you torment them with nightmares or something so they know it is you, or finally C.) because it's not personal, and you just want them gone. C is probably the hardest option, because it makes a supply of hatred difficult, but if you are sufficiently motivated, its probably the best reason for a curse.

I don't know, it depends on your target. If you act on behalf, of a greater good, then, well, I won't repeat the arguments for orvagainst that are all ready up here, but, when I once had to deal with a destructive sorccere who I'd been teaching what I knew, I used a form of black magick I found once in a book. Saddly, this ancient and powerful grimoire has since perished in a fire. The enchantment took 12 hours to place, and forced me to take to my bed for several days, but it bound the mind. It reduced the will, and prohibted certian types of thought. It called upon 54 different entities, from Larfor to Horus.

Would you ever attack someone physically with the intent to kill, for whatever reason(s)? I think the answer to this question also answers the other.

I'm bad at broad-scheme ethical questions.....
Have I? Prefer not to say per laws of my path.
Would I? In a heart beat if provoked to that point, this goes for physically as well. Although physically would offer much more than just hatred release heh.
Would I feel bad? No, if the person pushed me there then I would be at peace with the idea they need to die/hexed/etc and they did it themselves.

Death curses or madness curses can turn back on you, the same way positive spells can turn back at you--self directed negative emotions will draw a bit of the curse off, thus the "karmic" effect.

Conversely, if you really believe your cause is just, they will work just fine without affecting you (whether or not your curse is just is a matter for judgement).

Finally there are devices for avoiding any kind of rebound:Binding the curse into a gift is particularly effective since
A. in a karmic, symbolic exchange sense they still owe you (especially if the gift is something they want) curse and all, a cursed gift remains a gift

B. They willingly accepted a cursed object of their own accord. A variant of this is the long witchy practice of binding curses into knots on a piece of twice or a hairpin and leaving the focus on the targets doorstep, to be naturally picked up as curiosity.

I've studied black magic and there is nothing special,ethical,rewarding about it its not called black magic for nothing. Its an truly evil magic and to even consider it you have lost the battle. The only true way to defeat ur enemy is with love and kindness and if you can't comprehend how love works you are truly lost as a human being. But I will explain it to you for those who even consider useing black magic, as our souls, are eternal. Killing ur enemy you would still have an eternal soul still set out to destroy you. If you show love to ur enemy's they could learn to love you aswell thus defeating your enemy Permanently. Black magic and all its books need to be burned and forgotten just as other "true " evils need to be forgotten.

Personally, no. In my set of values I would never kill a person.

HOWEVER . . .

1) If there is ever a zombie apocalypse, heck yes, I'll be having one hell-of-a time.

2) If America ever ends up going Dictator or war-ravaged and it becomes a basis of 'defend your family and home' then yes.

Those are just some situations in which I would use them. Otherwise I would never use them in day to day life. So do I know any? Yes. For some reason (and I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels this way) it makes me feel more secure to have an 'ace' in my pocket if you know what I mean.

The only thing that worries me, is that spells gain effect through practice and time, so because I know the spell doesn't necessarily mean it will be that effective. So then I would practice it, but again, not looking forward to that. Oh well. I'll just have to snipe zombie out-liers for the first few days of the zombie apoc.