Thread: Summoning demons

Originally Posted by Astral Eye

I work with demons but have never used the Qilopoth. I use a pentacle, and a variety of rituals that I have designed or for basic works, the lesser and greater ritual of the Pentacle. What do you want to ask?

I'm curious about everything regarding summoning of demons. Are you people talking about at trip down your own subconscious, or a real personalized demon that appears in front of you (like they talk about in Karlsson's book)? If so, how do they look like? Do they talk? Are they friendly? How can is change a persons life?

Originally Posted by water

I'm curious about everything regarding summoning of demons. Are you people talking about at trip down your own subconscious

Yes, this would be the case, when summoning a Demon.

OK, but is that the ONLY case? If you don't want to elaborate, please don't answer. It's just plain pointless and annoying as I have clearly stated that I want useful information - as in information that gives me a clue of what this is, rather than cryptic hints.

It's fine by me if you don't want to elaborate (even though this just makes me think this is all BS - no offence), but this thread is for they who might want to.

You want information about a subject like this then you should start reading if you are serious about it. This is an occultforum and not a pre-school, no one is spoonfed here.
Maybe something for you to start off with. However, it might be heavy reading, but you can always give it a go:

Liber Hvhi

Pre-schooling? I'm just asking if someone is willing to share some of their experiences. You, as stated 276849 times, do not want to. OK!

Anyone else?

Read the key of solomon (greater and lesser) and research the lesser summoning/banishing of the pentacle. That's all I can say at the moment. Summoning is a rather personal art.

Have you tried to sumon a demon? If you have then chances are that you already have your answer as to whether or not they are mental or physical manifestation.

As for experiences, I hang around a trio from time to time who perform their own unique rituals for summoning and believe they manage to physically call something, I however have never been one of the successful gatherings hmmmmmm

Originally Posted by Astral Eye

Read the key of solomon (greater and lesser) and research the lesser summoning/banishing of the pentacle. That's all I can say at the moment. Summoning is a rather personal art.

19th century Golden Dawn rituals are not compatible with grimoires and can only ruin evocation.

My own personal experiences with demons.
Most of the lesser ones want to feed and typically are unstable. The greater they are, the greater the degree of consciousness and control. I think most of the lesser ones are produced by the passions of humans and of the greater demons - thus they typically tend to be unstable.

I've often seen if you treat a demon with respect, but as equals... they typically will be kind to you (in return of a sacrifice normally). If you happen to get closer and develop a relationship with a demon of greater power, its' essence will influence you on deep sub-conscious levels.

''Be careful of the gods you create, for they shall make you in their own image''

Some of demons are directly tapped into deities, since their names are perversions of various deities. They normally take in the negative energies of those deities.

Other demons are solely representations of the human psyche, that most monotheistic religions did not believe correspond with the particular ''way you should be'' or ''the righteous way''... this is why religious organizations have power over people. For example, Lilith is a demon who represents the ''dark'' feminine traits (madness, the desire of women to be dominant in bed, etc.).

Then you have demons who are actual beings in their own right. Most of the arch demons of the Qlippoth fit this description (including Lilith).

I did a supreme invocation of Lilith which resulted in me being anointed in blood and journeying into the wilderness. I found a deer horn on that journey and I have kept it since that experience. Lilith gives birth to All. She is the Mother of All Perversions. She is also the Mother of Heros and great beings. Regardless, birth is not something that defines Her. I believe the horn was meant to represent the carnal nature of Man that we seek to reject in western society. All manner of ''evil'' desire should instead be embraced, but it shouldn't be acted upon. This freedom allows Passion to grow within.

I learned to truly live through Her.

From what I have heard and read on the subject, the result of summoning demons or entities can be quite different. It is also very individual, but the key seems to be too let the demon or entity have a means of manifestation. That means it probably won´t materialize out of nothing, suddenly walk in through the door, etc, (although I wont necessarily exclude that from being possible to occur) instead you should expect it to appear in dreams, or a mirror as someone mentioned, or anything similar.

I have no personal experience on the subject, so I would not know for sure, and that is also something that needs to be taken into account when discussing this kind of topic. What works and is true for others might not be for you, as it is always a personal experience.