Thread: Summoning demons

Originally Posted by Scarlett 156

Sometimes you'll be able to make the demon show itself in a scrying device such as a mirror. Some foolhardy souls will invite the demon to spell things out on an Ouija board (NOT RECOMMENDED).

Hi, if you dont mind me asking, why wouldn't you ask the Demon to spell things out on a ouija board?

I have experienced necromancy, though today I still find myself at odds with the way Western Occult Philosophy deals with the art itself. For instance, there was a mention of Lillith as a demoness. Did you know at an earlier times she was worshipped as a goddess? She actually PROTECTED babies and was connected with fertillity rites!
When judaism rose up to become a 'One God' religion, they demonized all of their former pagan gods - as did christianity later on. Because of this, I have a conflict with calling something up as a demon that is not a demon at all. In fact, the entire act could be very insulting to the spirit involved, so of course they won't show up - or worse yet - quiety enter your life and cause personal havoc.
This is why I research the spirits I call upon, whether it be necromancy or another art. If you find their earliest roots, you may also find a greater way of summoning them in the first place. Knowledge is power.

I have summoned dark forces and they DID come. It was not a 'journey into introspection of myself', nor was it a mental manifestation - though I will say that I know others who did have this experience, though they did these ceremonies and were not properly initiated to perform magic at all. You see, it all depends on YOU, the practitioner. If you are not initiated into these arts, then you are not personally protected against anything that happens. You do not have the authority to ask a spirit to do anything for your cause. You have no leverage.

This is the purpose of initiation. Without it, you can pretty much experience anything possible, and the outcome will not be controllable. Most darker spirits will play mindgames with you, and will not appear despite the 'greater curse' placed upon them. (what good does it do to curse something that is already condemned beyond cursing?) These will often infiltrate your life and cause all sorts of problems. Whether they appear or not, dismissal is a MUST. Not once, not twice, but thrice. Follow with a purification ceremony.

In my own experience, I have found some roman, greek, and sumerian methods of necormancy much more direct and powerful. There is no room allowed for vengeful spirits or defiance. The judeo-christian methods are full of contradictions that in the end can place the practitioner at the mercy of the things he or she has called forth. Learn about all the different kinds of necromancy, and choose the one right for you.

In my own experience, I have found some roman, greek, and sumerian methods of necormancy much more direct and powerful.

What methods were these?

Even though they say in all spiritual practices one should be silent about one's own experience... I believe otherwise, I ultimately want to live in a world where magick is openly practiced, as I
have reached a stage in my spiritual practice where I can perceive subtle energies very easily, I can constantly feel and see without the need to meditate or be in the dark, I can very clearly perceive auras of spiritual masters in broad day light. After that just out of curiosity I picked up a book on summoning spirits by konstantinos and I did go through the trouble of learning LBRP and so forth but one day curiosity I just decided to vibrate the name with the sigil without anything else and wala! A bubble of aura floated into my room... First it tried to enter my body but due to my natural defenses from all my meditations it wasn't able to enter... So it just lingered outside and started communicating with me... I told the spirit that I simply needed a spirit to work with for my meditations and it was more than happy to oblige I almost made a pact but decided not to and told it that I wasn't ready and that I would call it in another time and it left on it's own...I didn't bother with a banishing ritual because it was a very beneficial spirit... I'm not saying I'm special in anyway, all it is is a bit of self discipline, curiosity and creativity really... Anyway it is a lonely path, regardless of how many friends you have and the reason why most aren't willing to share is, from my own experience is that one of two things will happen, you will either be shunned as a devil worshipper of sort or be praised which will only inflate your ego which will ultimately be your own downfall... Sohere's my question to you... Are you truly curios to the point of wanting to learn and practice or are you simply here to play intellectual games? The very fact that your very first curiosity is about summoning demons says a lot and the reason why most choose to ignore it

Demon's can vary from multiple form's such as at train of thought like have you ever said in your head something that you would never expose outloud knowing you could do it and get it away with it thats a demon. There are also goetia, but thats another subject.

Sometimes when I come in here, I feel as it I am in a forum of assholes.

This is my first post on this forum so I probably won't be as trusted as maybe older members, but I still feel like I have something to say even if it isn't even read. Anyway, you sound a lot like how me and my friend used to be. We had to look into everything, look deep and try to understand it all like you would something for school. There is nothing wrong with wanting to understand something, and research is a good thing to do, but with magickal workings, you'll do best if you simply try. Do what you think is supposed to be done. How you feel like summoning a daemon is supposed to happen. Most of it deals with what feels right to you and what works. Do research first of course, but don't try to recreate everything that someone else has already done. You have to work however you feel is best for you. Understand the basics, have a good feel for what it is you are trying to do, and let it set in motion. You'll never get anywhere in your magickal abilities if you spend your whole time studying what works for other people, cause you're not other people, you're you, and if you can't see that it's an individual thing and what works for others won't always work for you, you won't be able to get past the basics. But that's just what I think, I could be completely wrong, but I'll just say that after I finally stopped researching and finally just started doing magick, I've gotten great at it, and that's just by going by my gut. What does yours say? Listen to it, and you won't go too wrong.

If you want my opinion on what a daemon is, it's a non material entity that draws it's power from the darkness, which is by no way evil, it just is an energy source that works better in certain areas than other energy sources. Angels are basically the same, they just use the light instead of darkness. It's like a doctor and a teacher. They're both people, just different professions. That's the way angels and daemons are, but that's just what I think. It may be different may be different for you, and whatever you think or feel about them, is whatever works best for you, and you're workings will be all the better for it if you find your own feelings and ideologies, not just base it off of what everyone else tells you

My advice is don't mess around with what you don't know. Angels can be just as dangerous as demons, you need to research, work with someone who has been doing it a long time, not someone who reads a book and viola they are an expert. Mrs. Peel has worked with them all including the XOYLO, she will tell you don't go into shark infested water unless you have a cage.

Originally Posted by Mrs. Peel

demons CAN BE ANGELS. SO LET US GET THAT STRAIGHT OUTRIGHT.

That's a curious statement, I would love to know more about what you mean, could you be kind enough to elaborate?

/93

She won't and frankly it is none of your fucking business. Want to know then join her forums.