Thread: demons posession, what can

I beg to differ. Although I shall not explain why since your nescience sustains me.

Originally Posted by Thetalpha

I beg to differ. Although I shall not explain why since your nescience sustains me.

I'd like to have this debate and hear what you differ about. Please continue?

Originally Posted by Magi

you must look through the good eye I said nothing about love maybe you should put the beer down you can see better then and then the clarity can come forth

or even better Mike put down the joint

I am well aware that you didn't mention love, but I changed the conversation a while back. Do try to keep up.

Originally Posted by Magi

well t seems you changed the conversation because you couldn't keep up

That must be it.

Half this thread has now been rendered useless. Nice work.

ANYWAY back to the problem at hand.

Fish:
There are a lot of things that don't quite fit with what you're saying.

You're an orthodox jew, yet you keep referring to Satan. Do you have a good reason for this?

It took you many posts, with many words, but you've ended up circling around a number of issues that you have (in your own words) blacked out. Ie:

• a suicide attempt on your part
• other family members acting strangely - swaying unconsciously and your dad also cursing you.
• a ouija board incident

It sounds like you need to work some stuff out for yourself here.


Are you trying anything we suggest? If so, what have been the results?

Please provide photos of any symbols your sister has drawn.

I made some recommendations in the other thread on the same topic. They still stand, but having read this I have some new ones to add:

• move out of the house and away from your sister. Easy. You've already said you're at least 22. Just remove yourself from the situation.
• read Dion Fortune's Mystical Qabalah (I know I've already recommended this at other times, but I can't recommend it enough). This book covers a lot of ground in a framework you are already partially familiar with. Stop saying "I don't know any of this" and start learning. It's been going on for long enough that you should have at least a beginner's understanding of how magick works.
• work through your psychological issues with someone you can talk to (either a professional or friend, not a forum full of strangers). This sounds like a combination of both inner and outer turmoil. A basic concept in magick is that the mental and physical are reflections of each other. What is going on mentally for you that is reflected in this experience?
• seek help from adept magicians. Maybe Zelda is doing this already. Get someone to check out the situation on the astral plane. That might provide some important insights.

It doesn't sound like we can do any more for you than we already have. Read all the advice (skip the childish bickering that went on for 3 pages) and ask yourself: "do I want a solution, or do I prefer having the problem?"

finally we are back on topic.

But to be honest, I find it hard to believe that this is a real possession. I'm a Theistic Satanist, and frankly I just think that Satan and His Demons would have something else better to do than just possess some random girl. Fish, you think that this Demon is very powerful, like under Satan, right? And if there really is a Demon involved then its probably just a lower hierarchy, thats a part of the Goetic legions or something, controlled by one of the 72 Spirits? Just giving my two cents.

1.from what ive read this bullshit your lying fish i mean for christs sake even your name screams this is fake but ill treat this issue as it's real just incase it is i could just be being an jaded as*h**e right now. 2.IT IS NOT SATAN your sis you and your whole family would most likely be dead by now and i agree with goth_queen high up demons in my experience dont give a damn bout humans cept' for the fact they can use us to cause damage on a grand scale 1000s of deaths at a time, so if it was what you think it was someplace near wear you live would have experienced something tat racked up a big death toll. 3.youve been told this before by other ppl let me reitterate them do some f@#$%ng research your first resource would probbly be this site, my own personal reccomendations are the legemeton ,grimoirum verum if you can find it try estoricarchives.com. just try learn all you can on controlling and binding spirits, like bokeh said get out of the house as soon as you can and if you want learn what you can and try to help her but do it out of the house if it's a demon it will know your doing stuff like and instead letting do it and take any chances it might just beat you into a coma.