Thread: demons posession, what can

i am a religous person, im jewishi posted about this before, maybe a year ago or this past year.i dont know alot about demons, i did some research and found barely anything. just basic things and stuff i dont agree with like them being angels and turning against god. i dont know alot and id want to know more. but all i know id that they are bad and scary and cause alot of trouble and most people want to stay away want to know how to understand the situation. i dont know how a person like me got involved with these things. im a kind,goody 2 shoes, helpful and charitable person. i have saved animals, peoples lives, given charity to homeless when i was not asked. i am probably being picked on by these things
i have never practiced witchcraft or tried to summon a ghost. i dont know alot about the occult or demonic things.i have a family member who is posessed by demons or even satan too himself at times. the devil had manifested in her but its also demons .
she has a severe personality change, her voice changes, she claims to be a male now, her energy is heavy, the floor shakes when she walks, she has unusual abilities like predcting things. she predicts world tradgedies and then they happen within weeks, she predicts personal tradgedy also, she also claims to have premonition dreams
she tells me im a pathetic lost soul just like "the others". she wont tell me who the others are.
she tells me shes watching me and is onto me and that im just like the others.
she acts with severe hatred towards me , yelling, screaming, threatening me daily, doing everything to make me suffer, she curses at me and says sick things. she tells me to kill myself and that she will put feces on my coffin.
she tells me she controls my future, she says horrible things will happen to me
she says i need to be punished and locked up. she tells me she hates god, she says everyone hates me, she wants me to feel isolated, she tells me god hates me and will punish me, she beat me with a hebrew prayer book then tossed it to the floor which is disrespectful and a sin in my religion
she tells me to not pray to god, she also draws demon seals on the door that are not finished. she told me not to summon her.
she says shes a demon, she tells me i have long claws even tho i have no claws. she tells me she has claws but i see no claws on her.
its pretty scary, shes racist against women and she talks bad about women as if shes a shovenistic guy.
shes completely the opposite from how she used to be, she used to be a kind, caring, loving and giving religous person who was there for you no matter what. i dont hate my sister i hate the person who is pretending to be her and taking her looks in order to trick me or cause me sadness. i hate the activities this creature does. it certainly is not my sister, the only thing this thing has in common with her is her looks and the life role is trying to play

she dosnt know my age, my middle name, holidays and events shes practiced her whole life, books she read. etc she has no memory of what my real sister used to know. she tried to guess my age and she was off by 10 years one time and 3 years the other time and this is my relative who should know this

she eats food my sister used to be allergic too, in large quantity
she stutters and talks strange as if its hard to speak english, she acts like engnlish is a 2nd language. but english is the only language she speaks fluently. she spoke english since she was a toddler. ive seen spanish speaking imigrants speaking better english sentences then she does at times
she forgets how to talk english. and messes up and starts over or cant think if simple words
she tells me the devil tells her things in her mind and that the devil is after me, she smirks alot and acts happy when bad things happen. she tells me the devil tells her to torture me.
she makes animal noises and does things to distract me. she tries to stop me from eating, getting things i need, caring for my health or accomplishing minor positive life goals.she makes it her business to be on top of things and make sure things dont work out for me. she has no goals or plans for herself she sits home and follows me and thinks about me all day and ways to harm me and prevent me from doing anything good for myself or others.she tries to stop me and she torments me to weaken me emotionally so that i give up. i feel depressed from this. the entire summer she sat home making animal noises throught the day, following me around and cursing at me and trying to hit me every day.
she stares into space alot. i told her why dont you do something , she said she has to control me.
she was in a transe once doing something bad to me and going into my room and grabbing one of my most important things and walking out with it while under a transe.
it looked like something commanded her to do it
she tells me shes an actor and the world is a stage. she tells me shes not my family and that shes male.
she told me tonight that tonight is the night of the dancing gods and then she started to dance

she told me she wants to be god.

i asked what her name is and she cursed at me and got severely violent
she hit me with objects, chairs, curtain rods, wooden planks
she threw water at me and food items
shes beaten me many times and acted severely harsh to a point i feared for my life and thought about calling the cops.

this is not my sister, this is some rabid creature, she acts like a rabid animal and runs around and attacks randomly. she will randomly attack me out of nowhere and get violent

she acts sometimes like she forgets how to be human, she walks with odd postures bent over sideways, she often jumps out of places.
she makes hissing sounds. she claims she witnessed bible events. she says she hates mortals and hates mortals like me

whatever this thing is its not my sister but fort some reason according to me it looks like my sister. it isnt her personality. this thing acts severely sinful, jateful, rabid, mischevous,angry and mean and violent. its not a creature that god created to go to heaven. god created people as kind beings even tho something people do have flaws its never this bad. a wild dog wouldnt treat me how my sister treats me. ive seen mean people and this is not mean this is bizarre, over the top.

im getting beaten and spit on. i need to find out why. get to the bottom of this

she says shes after me, not my family or sister. shes using her to harm me
either my sister is posessed or it is a demon that looks like my sister. those are 2 conclusions
she warned me about this before it happened. she said demons were after me and pretending to be people i love and care for. probably in order to hurt me.
my sister is not a demon, i know her well enough and how kind she is, this is a seperate thing. its an entity or odd creature
i have some abilities to read minds, i have empathy on certain things
and i was able to read into this demon that its angry and hates me and wants me to hate my sister.it wants to hurt me and stop me from being happy and its sad too not for me but its sad because its selfish and feels bad for itself, it also wants to be god and hurt god
my sister calls me god all the time now, whenever shes sad or angry at something she calls me god and she tells me i know everything heaven knows, she said im one of them
she acts like im some super genius on religous biblical topics, because she dosnt know anything anymore\
she is trying to hurt me for no reason,

i stood up to it when it was yelling at me, i told it that she is only abusing me and tormenting me because its angry that god will send it to the lake of fire. that got her very scared and she shut up and ran away very fast even tho all i did was say that right after she was trying to beat me
it was personal for her.
im very sad, i was warned about this and now it happened. how do i deal with it. i dont know how to handle demons., i dont knopw much about them. i have so many questions., sepcific things i want to ask

this thing know my dreams, nightmares etc..she comes up to me telling me personal things about myself, such as dreams and nightmares i have

she predicts death and tradgedy and laughs when it happens. its sick

she smiles like bin laden did on thaty video tape they have of him when hes hearing the radio and hearing the world trade center went down

she smirks alot and has many facial distortions. she can make things happen on her face that humans canot. she makes her eyebrows go vertically up and down at times
she does odd things with her eyes too. they have turned colors and other things........ she can lift a heavy dining room table over her head
she makes odd grimaces and i saw the devil on her face once, her face shapeshifted sort of and i saw the devil on the face.also i was attacked by a ghost when she ran after me

she cornered me in a room that the demon seal was written on the door of the room. and she stared at me with odd crazy eyes, like the satanic look she had. ive never seen her eyes like that before or any human and all of a sudden i felt a force push me, i felt this big giant thing drag me across the room, i saw my feet drag backwards and then it shoved me down. i was lying on the ground there looking up and my sister still held that stare on me, she didnt take her eyes away.

i screamed and told her to go away and she finally did and i was able to get back up
a few times when i put salt on the floor of a room it stopped her from coming in
theres a lot going on. i have alot of questions on demons, how can i leanr about them and where? can anyone here answer questions on them

what can i do, to keep myself safe, what do i need to know? how do demons interact with humans and why?i am very scared and didnt try to deal with this. ive nevr studied demonology or tried any witchcraft. i am sort of against that and i view demons as bad

Look for a jewish way to do this, of course.

Such a brioef way is mentioned:

"The Jewish exorcism ritual is performed by a rabbi who has mastered practical Kabbalah. The ceremony involves a quorum of 10 people who gather in a circle around the possessed person. The group recites Psalm 91 three times, and the rabbi blows the shofar -- a ram's horn. Rabbi Winkler has performed four exorcisms in his life so far. He said, "We blow the ram's horn in a certain way, with certain notes, in effect to shatter the body, so to speak. So that the soul who is possessing will be shaken loose. After it has been shaken loose, we can begin to communicate with it and ask it what it is here for. We can pray for it and do a ceremony for it to enable it to feel safe and finished so that it can leave the person's body."

The point of the exorcism is to heal the person being possessed and the spirit doing the possessing. This is a stark contrast to the Catholic exorcism that is intended to drive away the offending spirit or demon. Winkler said, "We don't drive anything out of anybody. What we want to do is to heal the soul that's possessing and heal the person. It's all about healing -- we do the ceremony on behalf of both people.""

From: Dybbuk - Spiritual Possession and Jewish Folklore

i dont thinkl thats going to work. this is not a soul posessing her, its not a spirit either.that arcticle talks about a human spirit who passed who posessed someone. this thing in the form of my sister is demonic. its a demon and a very strong demon, most liklely a head demon right under satan. ots very powerful and wants to be god. this is not a ghost and not like a ghost, a ghost dosnt have that much power and isnt as mean at all.
a ghost can be healed because they have a human soul and a heart, even the meanest of all mean ghosts. a demon cannot be healed,it is not hurting, it wants chaos and pain and disorder. it only wants to hurt people, theres no such thing as healing a demon, i thought about it but you cannot turn a psycho demon who wants to eat peoples flesh and dethrone god into the easter bunny.

its redundant and single minded and only wants to harm people. its anti human and anti anything that makes sense

this thing does not want to give up and its very powerful, enough to drag me across the floor and ruin my life. it has diseapeared and reapeared again. it shoots fire from its eyes, the eyes glow like lightening

ghosts dont shoot fire from the eyes and they dont do all the crazy things she did to me. i have experience with angry human ghosts, they used to play tricks on us, turn on and off the light, mainly be funny. like anytime i walked under a light it would flicker. it would try to send messages, appear and disapear, yell for help or vocalize but it would never do anything as crazy as what this girl who claims to be my sister is doing

this is satan himself. she had manifested as the devil many times. it might even be satan himself who is posessing her

if we can"heal" satan then we have cured the worlds trouble.

this is no ghost and no dybuk, this is not an angry man who has passed.this is something thats never been alive that dosnt know how it is to be human. its powerful.

its dosnt understand human traits.

its manipulative and sneaky

i am uneasy about this this you posted even tho im jewish., were not dealing with a ghost or anything that can be called out. this thing will fight or swipe me with 1 paw if i do the wrong thing. its making awful things happen.

i dont mind looking into other ways of handling this, even tho im jewish

im openminded to the christian, catholic ways, muslim, non religous, pagan, etc

anything. i need ideas. or to learn more about this

the thing might posess me, and then what? ill run through the streets killing people against my will and then when it finally decides to leave me illl be sitting in a prision cell or a state insane asylum

it dosnt like me and it dosnt want me to know, thats why it hides behind my sisters appearance. i dont even know if its posessing my sister. maybe its actaually only a demon and its taking on a human form? i have no idea what the possibility is
theres many possibilities if you keep your mind open

doppleganger?

i have twin cousins for example, they are identical but ones a mean one and the other one is nice. i can look at it that way. how do i know which twin im talking to

first of all...consult a psychiatrist about your sisters problem, but after the description it looks like a deamon possesion to me.
Your description is quite strange, hope you don't play with such things.
Consult your rabbi. You need specialized exorcist.
Try to ingore the deamon, or whatever that thing is...It could take time until an official exorcism ritual is approved. I don't know how it is in the hebre religion, but for an exorcism in the catholic curch you need aprovements from the vatican, or something...And it usualy takes time.

i dont care if its a catholic preist who helps me. i doubt ill find a rabbi who will. demon posession is rarely talked about in synagogues and most rabbis dont believe in it or they only believe in ghosts like above. so im losing any hope a jewish rabbi can help me. i guess i might have to go to a preist. i dont think the demon belongs to any religion, it basically worships itself so any religous leader will help.

shes seen a psychiatrist and other doctors and they dont think shes mentally ill or sick. ive also seen mental health profesionals and im not sick either.

its definately demonic and not some other excuse or rational explainable thing

Correct me if I am wrong but an exocisum by a preist can only legaly be performed in the UK now?

To me it is a classic case of demonic possesion and having seen this on numerous occasions myself and also having being possesed also I sympothise with your predicament.

However I do get the impression that your not telling us the whole story here ? Far as my experience go's you can end up being possesed from a summoning that has gone horribly wrong or you actully invite a demon to possess yourself without any ritual if your emotions are strong enough... I have not known them to randomly possess people before.

So what was the chain of events that lead upto this happening ?

im not sure what happened. a few years ago, some odd stuff happened. i was cursed at by a few people. i ended up getting hurt badly and almost died. after that everything got worse and thats when demonic influence entered my life and it began to affect my family and got woprse gradually over a few years.

my sister warned me that she saw something terrible and that something terrible will happen to me. she told me a demon was controlling me and satan was after me. she explained to me that demons were already taking over parts of my life, and that i didnt see it but she did. and i sort of did but was in denial. i saw a few odd things that she also did, it was odd. my entire family was doing this chant and swaying

but i blocked it out because i felt crazy even tho my sister saw it too and told me
she warned me anything can happen and something bad was about to happen, she used to pray for me and was very upset and seemed desperate when trying to warn me basically every day. but i ignored it, because i was afraid
the last time i saw her " my real sister" she seemed really sad like she knew something was going to happen and she basically begged me to give her a hug and told me she loves me and cares about me and that shes worried

a few days later i came back home and bam
! everything changed, she was a different person and everyone in my family sort of changed but they didnt act severely odd. only my sister did

i dont know what happened while i left

i dont practice witccraft. i owned a uoija board when i was younger, my parents housecleaner does practice witchcraft
but did this has been following me since i almost died. so maybe it got worse and manifested itself more severely by showing up as my sister, or posessing her. sort of like how a faded thing becomes more bold. it went from a minor thing to an evident thing
i was cursed at. i dont know what sin went on, but i let go of myself. i had severe health problems that i almost died from relating to the accident and i stopped caring for my health. that might be it, it might have seen me as a victim and is using those closest to me to get to me. since this demon seems to be targeting me, it dosnt say o9t hates my sister it says it hates me
it saw me as weak and came after me as a target.

also maybe since the near death situation was sort of my fault. some could view it as a suicide attempt. so that i think invites demons, maybe they were trying to kill me or made me do it


maybe some odd situation happened because i changed things and became disabled and i couldnt walk anymore very well after the injury

so the devil was standing there waiting for me like a cat with its mouth open waiting for a mouse to walk in. maybe it wanted me to die. so it sent demons after me

i was having a struggle

So your not an orthodox Jew then ?
How do you know you were cursed ? and why ?

Your sister become the messenger because she is the closest person to you, that would be correct to an extent...

What kind of results did you get with that uoija board ? and was there any lasting aftermath so to speak ?
And how do you know your parents housekeep practices witchcraft ?
How long has she been there in relation to your sister relaying these initial warnings to you ?

Instead of talking on a forum, go talk to rabbi or jewish kabbalist.

Originally Posted by Fr_CV

Instead of talking on a forum, go talk to rabbi or jewish kabbalist.

I get the distinct impression that fish is unable to do that, as reading between the lines I do feel that the one/s he does know are somewhat upset shall we say....

Again lets just say that was an "assumption" and forgive me fish if I am wrong