Thread: You all know you are?

what i mean by balance isnt about the balance between the two sides of magic but more about the balance between everything, in the largest term of "the balance" the heavens, and the ordinary individual against the spirits and people who wish to destroy, but thats going on a very grand level and goes into another ethical arguement, there will always be "conflicting" forces out there, no one can deny that, but if there isnt a happy medium things begin to fall apart. sort of like how if you actually mess around with "dark" magick for too long it begins to effect you, and your personality, if you arent careful same happens with the "light" just in a different way and take longer, so a balance is needed to control and diminish these effects

I don't believe in the colors of magick, it all depends on the intent of the Mage.

Simple as that.

I wonder if the ray teachings of dion fortune should have any subforums. I think there is a ray for every planet too so maybe like green witchcraft/earth magic should have a section but maybe the herbal section is enough.
I know red magick is destructive and related to mars, passion, and the people, like a king's magical system, but stuff just nasty disgusting with power. probably why purple is the color of royalty... blue reminds me of high ceremonial magick, or hermetics, and systems of advanced knowledge. Orange is the color of biology, I know so maybe many natropathic medical practices are actually orange magick, and is healing then not just a white thing but connected to the orange ray? is the orange ray also culinary related?
any thoughts as to yellow? yellow is the color of leaves dying, maybe the science of reincarnation has something to do with it since the tree survives.
I don't know much about the ray teachings but those are my thoughts, still from what I remember and can surmise.

Originally Posted by LoD

Ave,

Funny... this would be a subforum where I'd expect a hell of a lot of topics and posts... you ask yourself why I guess?

You see, there is always this focus on either black or white when it comes to the occult, but that is simply foolishness. I find those who say they are white magickians just as foolish as those who claim to be black magickians... since we all use magick for both ends depending on the situation, don't we? I have never met a serious occultist who would turn the other cheek when attacked, they would always retaliate, as defending oneself is of course completely understandable... I am not speaking of the extremes here, there may be those who are totally sick in the head who may only perform darker magick in order to destroy or hurt. These are a minority in the occult community... thankfully.

In a nutshell, I guess most of us are grey, since we utilize our talents not only to help others, but also to gain ourselves (or vice versa when speaking in the context of darker paths)... no?

Blessings,

LoD

I have known who I am since I was born. What's the problem?

Grey is but a mesh of black an white in terminology. but Grey still thinks black and white, when the soul is as clear as a diamond there is no distinction, attack and there will be no effect, but the passing through to dispersion.

it is my opinion that there is only magic, the way you use it is your business, and the tags you give in that use is also; your business. The current makes no distinction. We are on the entrails of morals, and like opinions, there will always be differences, for the point of view can never be replicated completely. What is today immoral may tomorrow be moral. look at some of our old knowledge and laws, these are all aspects of truth of there times and needs.

as for laws of nature such as three fold; I believe more in the ripple effect if it is far enough those ripples dissipate, but if it is to close you may get wet. This is a natural law but shows a point of reaction, which is a universal law. the beauty of progress in science is the defining of the ways of magic.

I see myself as grey. I dont perceive black magic or white magic through the lens of religion or morality. I dont link it to chaos and order or light and darkness. Too much of anything can skew your perspective. Practitioners of white allow themselves to live under too many restrictions. But I appreciate the incentive and experimental spirit of black magicians. To agree with some others, its all magic. It all fades to grey.

I see myself as grey, allthough I sometimes call others "black" or "white" to help understand their choices e.g.: I have to many people where I live that choose to harm others reguarly for no good reason. You may see why I reffer to them as Black practicioners to others.

Astral, I get your point. I was talking about folks who don't harm others purposefully: that is, those who dont deserve it and still get labelled and villified by those who don't understand them.

Yes, in that sense the label is stupid. Magick is like a tool, wether we use it for "good" or"evil" is up to us.