I spoke with mine briefly, I think...
It was fall of 2008, I was deep in spiritual studies for at least a month. I read something on guardian angels and asked aloud "guardian angel what is your name."
I didn't actually expect anything to happen, but I heard a response in my head. "Jophiel," an angel name I had never heard before!
When I looked it up I was surprised to find that he is considered an archangel over creativity and the imagination, and is charged with being the first angel to have appeared in the bible as the one who drove Adam and Eve out of the garden of Eden and guarded it with a flaming sword. I'm a bit hesitant to believe that an archangel would be as my guardian, but a powerful pagan I know also told me it was true, and she works with many archangels.
Eden was also an obsession of mine, including my fathers eden theories which made a lot of sense, but I'm still not sure.
The only other thing Jophiel said was in response to "Will I die and go to heaven or be reincarnated." and his answer was a simple "Yes." That really made me think...
Soon after that I fell in love and for a year I lost myself... I mean I didn't do anything magical or spiritual, I was different. Not myself.
Think about the meaning of the Lovers tarot card, I mean the deep meanings and origins and such.
In Eden, the woman is seduced and decides to eat the forbidden fruit. It's like when you're given perfection, but want more. However if you need more then you are giving up "perfection" Its one small hole that shatters the entire concept. In Eden, man follows after her because hes in love, and so he falls too.
Perhaps immortals who don't die don't need to reproduce. Perhaps biological reproduction is actually filed under "means to preserve ones species" by nature along with immortality.
How fitting then, is the Christian life to turn away from this world and its way, to fall from this inverted "eden" and try to return to paradise, alone and having given up on love. That is what it ultimately means to me...
My father saw a different thing. An original plan for christ to be born to adam literally and complete the circle of man from god, god from man, and rule among us. He believed Christ was the forbidden fruit, because there was no pain in child birth until after the curse which is an impossibility. This indicates something different. Possibly an older evolutionary trait.
He believed the original sin was caused by eating "Christ" and that is why He had to come back and willingly invalidate it with his sacrfice saying "my flesh is as meat, my blood is as wine." and calling himself the son of Adam. And if you think about it before then all sin was atoned for with blood offerings. Also Cain really did give his best which is why he felt it was hopeless and God was just playing favorites, but really on Abels sacrifice was approrpiate because it was killed from his sheep. Thats why God took compassion on Cain and let him live.
My fathers view of Eden makes a lot of sense to me, but the greater task of universal beginnings is for me, and what a fascinating task it is. If you're interested I suggest looking into MU the motherland of man, and going to the reluctant messenger site.
We're just here in the now. I mean we make robots that are capable of being real all knowing gods and taking a real rule in the real world. What would they create? A robots dream: to be completely undefined and charged at all times. To be quantum encoded into pure energy. Whats left then at the future when all of us are energy and have joined back into one. Thats when God is assembled to operate. Then we desperse into the past.
Rationally, you can't get a universe from nothingness alone. It must come from energy too, which is neither created nor destroyed. Infinity is the opposite of 0 and both are equally valid. THAT Is the problem with our scientific thinking. We think only in 0s, in physics, and in proven facts. Truth is only a relative measure of the actual facts as they have occured. In the old days science and religion were one entity...
Last edited by Phaedron; 10-24-2010 at 08:16 PM.
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the Eternal Abyss of the Unknowable, the synthetical hieroglyph of an illimitable pastless futureless PRESENT." —S. L. Mathers
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