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    OK i understand ur situation im currently in a catholic school and im the only satanist there sooo yea there alot people tht dont understand satanism since im wearing a pentagram most people ask em and call me evil,bad person,a confused youth but who rare the confused here the ones tht clear about its beliefs or the one tht questions its soo called creator

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    First, we should know that there are some (weak) evil spirits that are not only ruled by the Devil, but also by the God. These spirits are usually the ones that their names are not mentioned and they are called "evil spirits" or "demons" instead.

    So, obviously Saul did something to deserve this punishment by God... As we see here:

    "You acted foolishly," Samuel said. "You have not kept the command the LORD your God gave you; if you had, he would have established your kingdom over Israel for all time.
    You must also know that in the Bible we see some Hebrew ideas that were corrected later by Jesus. Because Jesus' mission was also to correct some misconceptions people had regarding the God.

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    I believe that it has something to do with one's definition of respect. It bothers me that, while secular ideas that are obviouslybased in falsehood are thrown out if not ridiculed outright, an idea that is useless or even toxic can be made untouchable by being lofted upon the mantle of "holiness." Personally, if a person tells me the the earth is 10,000 years old, evolution is a sham, and homosexuals are going to hell, I am going to respond outright that those ideas are stupid and dangerous. However, so long as the individual's actions remain innocuous I will show enough respect to the person to allow them to believe whatever crazy **** that they want. Now, if that same person is bombing abortion clinics and beating up 14 year olds in an alley near the site of a gay pride parade, then it becomes the individual who is dangerous and that person deserves neither respect nor mercy. Something does not deserve respect just because it holds the mantle of religion. But, by the same time, rejecting something out of hand just because it comes from a religious framework with which one does not, overall, agree can deprive an individual of an idea beneficial to their own expanding paradigm. Judge people by their actions and ideas by their merit, regardless of the faith under which they are presented.
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    I don't think for me going to church is something i need to do though i've done that in the past. The thing is christianity is about the development of society in the Western world at least, over a couple of thousand years and it was crucial to that development. Ie we would have the world we currently live in if it wasn't for Christianity. We would probably live in a less developed society as has been the case fopr societies that did not have develop under christianity.
    However that is in the past and science and democracy have really taken over from religion as the driving force of our culture and world.

    I think as to the relevance of Christianity for me now it boils down to certain values about being a good person and having compassion for others.
    I think it helps to keep me on path to remember those things but thats about all .

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    Respect is earned.....but in general no, most are not worthy, IME
    Unless it is maybe a rare gnostic/cosmic Jesus or a very openminded individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightPanther View Post
    Respect is earned.....but in general no, most are not worthy, IME
    Unless it is maybe a rare gnostic/cosmic Jesus or a very openminded individual.
    For us, respect is always given.. at first.

    If and when one proves otherwise, they are simply no longer acknowledged.

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    I dont think we should have to respect any religion but I think its wise if we respect others no matter their religion.


    And people probably think I'm a Christian but I dont think I am. I mean I believe Crowley's Lam is The Father, lol(He looks just like the one I spoke with), so I find it amusing when I sometimes get considered a Christian.

    Many of their writings though I find interesting. Like the Gospel of Thomas(but I dont think thats even considered Christian)..

    Jesus said, "When you see one who was not born of woman, fall on your faces and worship. That one is your Father."

    Sometimes I think of Him as Father AbraLam.

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    A very familiar sigil.. }-)

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    I always try and respect people and their beleifs regardless of what it is. I might not agree, with what they say or how they see things and vice versa.
    In those situations, I keep the subjects light, so they then become more like aquaintances rather than close friends.

    However, if I get disrespected by someone who thinks their religion , faith, beleif is the only way, I simply dismiss them , as I find life is too precious to waste and be around the wrong type of people .

    We are all different and best is I beleive, that we find the ones that we can relate to, rather than making an effort trying to bear and grin people that we just don't click with.

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    I go back and forth between this extreme hatred for the abrahamic faiths and this tolerance for them. Really, it is the people that make the religion bad. However, there are bits and pieces with those actual religions that I find to be closed minded.

    I honestly don't care what others believe. I don't like most fundamentalists because most fundamentalists don't like me. If they act like they like me, it is because they are scared of me or want to change me. Correction, they want to FIX me, like I'm broken or something.

    There is so much evil done by these religions, in the name of God. They say it is okay though because God said so, or because they asked God for forgiveness. I follow a philosophy of personal responsibility, so the idea of doing something that I am ashamed of or guilty of, I would take responsibility for. I did it because I desired to do it. I'm not going to say I did it because a God told me to do so. I'm also not going to be a hypocrite and do something that I am not guilty of and then go to church and pray for forgiveness.

    But there are other people in other religions that are just as bad. The Brahmins in India are supposed to be chaste and elite. They are supposed to be pure and holy. Yet many brahmins due to their higher class/caste indulged in behaviors and things that are considered immoral. All because they had the status and the money. While the poor are expected to be chaste and not do any of the things the brahmins do... and perform ascetic practices to escape the pain of their poor, under privileged living conditions.

    I judge the individual. I don't care what they believe in, as long as it doesn't restrict my own beliefs and it doesn't hurt anyone intentionally. Let me live my life and I will let you live yours. Restrict my life and I will destroy yours.
    Those who Fall will find their Heaven
    and will always be adored.


    In Plaudo Atri Matris!

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