Thread: The Weak & The Strong

even against my deconstructivist world view.. I think this beautiful and true

Zos Vel Thanatos.

It is always the weak who support the strong, and we should seek what is advantageous. EVERYTHING in creation is predatory to something and prey to something else. This is how the natural world works, and it's also how the "supernatural" world works. Spirits are also predatory and can be preyed upon as well, and "strength" should not be confused with "force" here.

If a Satanist tells me that their practice is not for the "weak", I would agree with them and inform them that my practice is even less suited for such types. Anything worth doing is not really for the weak, and strength of some sort is required to make powerful choices that result in powerful actions. I don't mean to sound condescending or disrespectful towards Satanists or their chosen path, but it seems to me that there is often so much mention of strength; determination; self-interest; etc. with regard to Satanism, as if to say it is somehow different in these respects than any other legitimate tradition or system.

Satanism advocates enjoying life and making the most of it. So does Daoism. Satanism does not reject the "physical" or material aspects of life in favor of some "spiritual" reward in the afterlife. Neither does Daoism. Satanism favors the individual. Daoism says you must do everything yourself, and favors the individual over the artificial and usually harmful Social Mind. Satanists believe in punishing those who deserve it. Daoists tend to be rather merciless towards those who need punishment, as everything is ultimately a choice on some level. And on, and on, and on.

The point I'm making here is that we shouldn't mistake the forest for the trees. Every path that one chooses to follow requires strength for completion, and this strength is also required for the act of daily living. That is, unless we choose to piss away our personal power. The weak do support the strong, and sometimes that support comes as getting smashed by the strong on their way to achieving their goals. The underlying goal of Daoist practice that most seem to not talk about is to become an apex predator. Not so that one can randomly prey on those who may be weaker, but rather to avoid being preyed upon, and also to prey on other predators if need be. Isn't that the point of human development and evolution in the first place?

I think it depends on the type of person. If someone is "weak," then they are spoiled, unnecessarily dependant, stupid, and a "moocher." Someone who is "strong" is motivated, self reliant, independant, and intelligent.

In terms of Satanism, the Satanist is encouraged to avoid the weak because doing so will prevent the Satanist's true potential from being held back by the weak.

Of course, this is my own opinion and just what I personally think and how I initially interpretted the subject.

What about people who have collected unemployment cheques and/or been on Welfare, but they busy their asses off to get a job and make money, do you consider them weak? I don't, and for a few reasons. For one thing, the economy is weak, so if you loose your job through no fault of your own, then you should be given the chance to find work, and if that means going on welfare for a short time, so be it. Even if being on Welfare makes you a weakling, you'd be surprised how strong a weakling can become if put in the right direction. But of course, it can't be at the expense of those who are strong.

Here's a snippet of an article I 99% agree with.

It is to humanity's benefit that we are capable of helping one another. There are benefits in protecting the weak, the disabled, the ill, and those who have injured themselves through effort such as sport. But there are many who hold that the weak should be allowed to die, or even be oppressed, because their survival is a detriment to the whole. This morality is one very close to the overpowering-state thesis of fascism, or the "community good at all costs" of totalitarian communism of Stalin-era Russia. The logic seems sound, but the result of putting this into action has, in history, without fail created monstrous regimes that have done no good for humanity. Therefore although I agree with the logic, in practice I find it too inhuman and too fraught with risk; the methods of this kind of filtering have always caused disaster, not emancipation from weak humans.

Source

The one thing I don't agree with is the logic.

I realize that I may seem obsessed with this topic....well...I am. This is the one thing about Satanism I have issues with. But hey, it's not like I have to agree with everything. >__<

Originally Posted by Mrs. Peel

the meek inherit the earth and sometimes the meek are more dangerous than the ones who think they know ir all.

What in the blue hell does that have to do with this topic?

Originally Posted by Justinfh

What in the blue hell does that have to do with this topic?

Look a little Satanist wanna be. You ain't too bright ARE YOU ASSHOLE?

And the cocky ones who don't understand themselves let alone others around them...LIKE MEEEE!!!!

Originally Posted by Belasko

Look a little Satanist wanna be. You ain't too bright ARE YOU ASSHOLE?

You are absolutely right, I am an asshole.

Well yeah!