Thread: Artificial Human Companions

In The Devil's Notebook, Anton LaVey discusses Artificial Human Companions, their construction and the effect they will have on human society. The Japanese are already pioneering the way toward creating servitors which will be useful for labor, while here in America the Realdoll manufacturers are creating objects for sexual fulfillment. The benefits to society would be many, but with the benefits also come pitfalls. I of course do not mean terminator style kill bots run amok, but something more subtle. Consider this article:

Runaway Consumerism Explains the Fermi Paradox

In the light of this article, how might "fitness faking" technology undermine civilization, if at all? Or will this new technology clear the way for the elite among the human race to separate themselves from the masses, while simultaneously weeding out the weak who are easily distracted by artificial things?

I read about this not too long ago. I am not concerned with them running amok, but perhaps this is the way the weak will be forced to be on the sidelines and weeded out by the ones who can afford to do this. Technology can be used for better reasons I think, but I guess time will tell. This is one subject many should think about in the days to come. Thank You for sharing.

Very very intresting artical. I think there is some truth to this and I would agree that "fittness faking" tecxhnology is underminding the population.

Thanks for sharing I will try to post some more on this when I have though it through.

Originally Posted by Stelionis Ignigenae

Or will this new technology clear the way for the elite among the human race to separate themselves from the masses, while simultaneously weeding out the weak who are easily distracted by artificial things?

Son, if you can't parse that one you never understood that thing about Social Stratification.

Originally Posted by Stelionis Ignigenae

In The Devil's Notebook, Anton LaVey discusses Artificial Human Companions, their construction and the effect they will have on human society. The Japanese are already pioneering the way toward creating servitors which will be useful for labor, while here in America the Realdoll manufacturers are creating objects for sexual fulfillment. The benefits to society would be many, but with the benefits also come pitfalls. I of course do not mean terminator style kill bots run amok, but something more subtle. Consider this article:

Runaway Consumerism Explains the Fermi Paradox

In the light of this article, how might "fitness faking" technology undermine civilization, if at all? Or will this new technology clear the way for the elite among the human race to separate themselves from the masses, while simultaneously weeding out the weak who are easily distracted by artificial things?

Fitness faking tech is a branding of inner instincts being manipulated. In classical conditioning, the conditioned response is derived from natural response. I.E.

Hot = ouch

hot + red (over time) = ouch

red = ouch

The color red is associated with pain.

This being said, the article in reference to "fitness faking tech" is a metaphor for conditioned neural responses that are similar to base instincts.

Tasty food = good for you

KFC = tasty food

KFC = Good for you

The instinct to infer that good tasting food is good for you, has been passed down by our ancestors, the monkeys. When agriculture first started out, the Sumerian farmers took the biggest and tastiest grains and planted them in stead of the smaller, bitter grains. This produced more crops, and better tasting food. When the article references that fast food is a "Fitness faking Tech", it is referring to the tasty food = good food instinct. Hence why we (humans) tend to eat KFC more often than broccoli.

Those who "eat broccoli" per sey, will inherit the earth, because they contain more self control.

What the author is basicly saying, is that:

people who don't succumb to the temptations of pornography, Xbox and KFC will inherit the earth. Entertainment is the scourge of mankind, pay attention to space, send out more space messages. Work more on spaceships and NASA, than entertainment. Eat right, have family values, and take care of the earth, and maybe we will contact aliens.

in short, Consumerism should be put below contacting aliens.

Originally Posted by Skeptismo118

Son, if you can't parse that one you never understood that thing about Social Stratification.

blunt, but correct. The article wasn't about servitors, or technology being used to create servitors. Demonic guides/aids and occult "helpers" as it were, have nothing to do with this article.

It is an interesting opinion, but ill suited towards your argument. The part about "weeding out the weak" was all about patiences. When we all die from a cardiac arrest because we were jerking off to porn and eating another chicken basket, the veggie/family values/scientists will inherit the earth, due to the rest of humanity's short sightedness.

I would read that article again if I were you, just to grasp the concept. I had to read it twice, just to get past the authors gross hate, spite, and viciousness towards the rest of the western world.

SWM you may have got the point of this artical more than most and I take my hat off to you, after your reply I think I see this artical in new light.

*Takes hat of to SWM*

Originally Posted by SWM

blunt, but correct. The article wasn't about servitors, or technology being used to create servitors. Demonic guides/aids and occult "helpers" as it were, have nothing to do with this article.

Neither do they have anything to do with the LaVeyian notion of Artificial Companions save in the most tenuous of metaphoric ways.

Satanism 101 for the basics.

Originally Posted by Skeptismo118

Son, if you can't parse that one you never understood that thing about Social Stratification.

You know just once I would like to try and start a conversation using the Socratic Method without getting primate dominance as a reply.

Protip: I am not your son, do not use diminutives with me.

Originally Posted by SWM

Fitness faking tech is a branding of inner instincts being manipulated. In classical conditioning, the conditioned response is derived from natural response. I.E.

Hot = ouch

hot + red (over time) = ouch

red = ouch

The color red is associated with pain.

This being said, the article in reference to "fitness faking tech" is a metaphor for conditioned neural responses that are similar to base instincts.

Tasty food = good for you

KFC = tasty food

KFC = Good for you

The instinct to infer that good tasting food is good for you, has been passed down by our ancestors, the monkeys. When agriculture first started out, the Sumerian farmers took the biggest and tastiest grains and planted them in stead of the smaller, bitter grains. This produced more crops, and better tasting food. When the article references that fast food is a "Fitness faking Tech", it is referring to the tasty food = good food instinct. Hence why we (humans) tend to eat KFC more often than broccoli.

Those who "eat broccoli" per sey, will inherit the earth, because they contain more self control.

What the author is basicly saying, is that:

people who don't succumb to the temptations of pornography, Xbox and KFC will inherit the earth. Entertainment is the scourge of mankind, pay attention to space, send out more space messages. Work more on spaceships and NASA, than entertainment. Eat right, have family values, and take care of the earth, and maybe we will contact aliens.

in short, Consumerism should be put below contacting aliens.



blunt, but correct. The article wasn't about servitors, or technology being used to create servitors. Demonic guides/aids and occult "helpers" as it were, have nothing to do with this article.

It is an interesting opinion, but ill suited towards your argument. The part about "weeding out the weak" was all about patiences. When we all die from a cardiac arrest because we were jerking off to porn and eating another chicken basket, the veggie/family values/scientists will inherit the earth, due to the rest of humanity's short sightedness.

I would read that article again if I were you, just to grasp the concept. I had to read it twice, just to get past the authors gross hate, spite, and viciousness towards the rest of the western world.

Sigh. Robots can't be used for porn? Robots can't be used to substitute for social skills? Robots can't be used to fulfill instincts that would normally be fulfilled by having children? About the only thing robots can't do is serve as food. It's a good argument, I just expected other people to be able to synthesize ideas. My mistake.

Light has just dawned. I had no idea someone would think robots would be used for porn. I did not even entertain this. I have a question, do you think Robots will be programmed with emotions. I realize I sound off base a bit, but it seems we are fulfilling what our world was depicted in the moves of the fifties. We are getting into so many possibilities of letting technology rule our world.