Thread: Lucifer beeing channeled?

Originally Posted by zero

ah thanks for that bit of info, knowledge, and interesting in magi's abilities.


names are funny in there differentiation. I say you can invoke a living entity and also spirits, gods, angels, dead. some are better than others; I would never invoke a dead entity, but then again I am not a medium. To invoke the dead is a unnecessary danger. in my eyes channeling is invoking, both bring a sub., or con. into ones shell. when one is conscious of the speaker one is the watcher, when one is not one is a shell.

what works for me may not necessarily work for you, and is a opinion so take it at that lvl...it is probably wrong.

mediums have the dead speak through them which is not good, Bel is a spiritualist but the dead talk to her on the side, never come in her body, channels .channel entities that are not dead, the entities live in the astral. I have seen Magi totally exhausted when he has finished channeling and Emma you never know because she will be posting something and the next thing you know she sounds un like herself and her posts show it. Being a channel is a gift and not every one is made to do it. Emma and Magi chose to do it to help others, but frankly I wouldn't do it, but I guess we all make choices we feel are right.

interesting, and a new field I will investigate myself(new to me). so it is like talking to astrals in a at will type of scenario? as apposed to finding them or conjuring them?

Does this take any type of prep or is there a previous link? and if not how does one establish the link or prepare for the operation?

I suppose the other end would be they come to you?

Lucifer no longer exists in the upper or lower planes. He is in human form and has been since the seventies. Not that his real name is or ever was Lucifer, the name being a biblical mistranslation.

Unless you are talking about the myriad of incarnate souls that THINK they are Lucifer and have become taken over by a chunk of his identity info. Then of course there is the thought forms you may conjure when sat before your pentagrams, that become what you expect of Lucifer.

Yeah, they'll tell you all you want to hear about Lucifer. But the real guy is in physical form for his own safety right now. Things are hotting up. Best place to be is nestled inside some dim witted human.

Originally Posted by behemoth

i correct myself, you probably wouldnt explode, but most likely go insane

Btw, has anyone of you ever talked to Lucifer, like summoning it?

Come on... What kind of delusion is this? You cant talk to a demon because demons are not human. They have a greater logic than humans so most possibly if you speak to a demon you wont understand anything from what he says, you would be too scared and you wont have any answers. Firstly... In what language is the demon going to reply to you? If you are chinese for example... What? Are we going to see the demon speaking chinese? "chin chun chon..." or what? Or are you going to speak with him in an international language like English?

Get serious, demons are not humans to come to you whenever you call them and start answering your questions.

Besides, if demons could answer to anyone normally and whenever he wishes we would already have solved the question of religion. I mean the whole world would believe in the one, real religion.

Originally Posted by Soddex

You can communicate with spirits. Have not done it with Lucifer though.

Of course you can. But be sure they wont just answer your questions and make a conversation with you just like they are humans. Nor they will start speaking your language or use an international language or something.

The most possible is that you will just hear strange abyssal noises or something.

Originally Posted by kkkhhh555

oh my goodness,to be able to commmunicate with Lucifer would be -i cant think of a goood word for it-but if I ever tried and it worked ,would he kill me

Be sure it would be dangerous my dear Elizabeth (this is your name, isn't it?). I don't think He would kill you because the Devil never kills directly. Don't forget that His best trick was to make the world believe He does not exist.

So... If you communicate with Him, He could scare you to death or drive you crazy, but be sure He is not going to lift His spear and stab you...

Originally Posted by kkkhhh555

well i know why one would think they arent the same,its just not my opinion,but Ive realized these past few months that theres alot Ive been misinformed about,but if you wanna start a new one then go ahead,and this stay on topic stuff really gets on my nerves,ive been told that too many times ,tell me the story about your friend shaking lucifers hand then

We don't know if Lucifer is the same with Satan. You can believe He is you can believe He is not, it doesnt matter. But it's a fact that Satan (Satanael) used to be the wisest, strongest, brightest and most beautiful angel. Lucifer was also beatiful and bright according to the Old Testament but we don't know if He was the most beautiful and most bright and the strongest and the wisest just like Satan, so we don't know if He really is Satan.

Now... About that girl touching Satan... I don't know. Satan wants non-Satanists to believe that He actually does not exist so I see no reason why He would tell a young girl to touch Him. He is too wise to do things for no reason don't you think?

Originally Posted by Soddex

Eeeh, what do you mean??? To say that "the fact is".. something.. well then I want to know were he gets those facts from.

I can't find the links but yes, we read in the Book of Enoch about Satanael and we also read what I said in Revelation Alpha if I'm not mistaken.

And I'm not retard. Whoever does not agree with you doesn't mean he is a retard.

Originally Posted by Soddex

Then I was mistaken, thought you was a christian (catholic or protestant)..

From your words I understand that you mean that every Christian is retarded. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Well, normally I am an Orthodox Christian... But without liking the pope I believe I am Catholic too. I mean, they are both Christianity. So, since I don't like the Christian priests and don't listen to what they say, I can't say if I am an Orthodox or Catholic in deed. I read about Christianity and believe what I think is right regardless if it's catholic or orthodox.

Both Christianity and Judaism has denied it. So it must be a reason for it. Kain uses that book as a relible source of facts. I want to know how he can do that, what he know that I dont.

We see a wise and beautiful angel named Lucifer that is fallen from heaven. Then, we see another angel who used to be the wisest, strongest and most beautiful named Satanael, that is also fallen from heaven and He is the leader of the fallen angels. Then, we see a Great Dragon named Satan (not Ha-Satan) who is also the leader of the fallen angels. I think it's normal that we assume that Satan is Satanael of the Book of Enoch.

Also, my dear Amy you should not trust the Church. I believe someone should read something and say if he believes it's words or not. I mean, someone should not say for example "I don't believe in the Book of Enoch because it was denied by the Church.". He should read the book and say if he believes it's words or not.