Thread: worship of tiamat and the ancient ones

Originally Posted by devakxes

The gods of the mesopotamians did not desire to harmonize with humans but rather wanted to play with us like slaves or puppet. The priest-hood was considered the voice of such gods and thus controlled the populace.

As you say above I feel these Gods under the rule of Marduk continue their rain of terror right into modern days. He took the form in human minds as the one true God, he split his groups of worshippers into three, the Abrahamic faiths and set them upon each other. all the while destroying all traces of the mother or her worship off the face of the earth. This was to ensure no return to the old ways of natural balance with the mother/universe. To solidify his power base he has millions of human deaths and murders in his name providing him sacrifice to feed his power. As long as the major religions are at each others throats there is no way to brake his control of the world around us and usher in an age where nature, humanity and technology can evolve into a new era of harmony.

Originally Posted by KashakuTatsu

Aye this can be applied to any of the religions or spiritual ideas. "why did (insert natural disaster here) happen? God/mother earth is punishing sinners!" while ignoring the trend of said natural disaster happening in cycles.
Also agreed with the use of mythos to control the mass populous. This again is seen over and over again. Then trying to open people to that idea makes them call you "evil", "heretic", etc... well ty.

I feel these cycles of disaster are signs from the Earth that we need to get a grip and get back in touch with her and work as one organism like we were made to do. Im currently using Tiamat as my mask for the Goddess at the minute but at the core of my beliefs I believe that the mother/Earth the planet its self and all life on it are one. which is the impressions I think I'm trying to get across. I'm new to expressing myself like this online through txt.

Originally Posted by abyss_mystic

I feel these cycles of disaster are signs from the Earth that we need to get a grip and get back in touch with her and work as one organism like we were made to do. Im currently using Tiamat as my mask for the Goddess at the minute but at the core of my beliefs I believe that the mother/Earth the planet its self and all life on it are one. which is the impressions I think I'm trying to get across. I'm new to expressing myself like this online through txt.

This is a quite common ideal, but if anything I've become much more pragmatic in life. Yes I work with elements a symbiotic relationship, not really an as one mentality... Even when we lived much closer to the land we still suffered volcanoes, storms, quakes, climate shifts, polar shifts, etc. Which is why I'm not inclined to go "we're not close enough" or "it's punishing evil".

The deities I work with I'm akin to so I try to help, but not in a traditional sense. Not only working with Tiamat in a motherly sense, but also like "awaken mother and destroy the blasphemous offspring who conspired against you!"

It wasnt really my itention to suggest that we are being punished with disaster what I was meaning is that these disasters are being given a chance to make things right and gain symbiosis with the natural world before the disasters get bigger due to the ignorance and arrogance of mankind. this was why i was using the tiamat reference nature is patient with us but it will hit back with devastating results if provoked. what do u think of the comparison?

Originally Posted by abyss_mystic

It wasnt really my itention to suggest that we are being punished with disaster what I was meaning is that these disasters are being given a chance to make things right and gain symbiosis with the natural world before the disasters get bigger due to the ignorance and arrogance of mankind. this was why i was using the tiamat reference nature is patient with us but it will hit back with devastating results if provoked. what do u think of the comparison?

As a fringe association I guess it could work for others.

Again, I don't fall into this idea of needing to make right with nature. Things happen regardless of what we do or if we're here or not. We find evidence of massive events when were were living closer to the land, if it made no difference then it will make no difference now.

Volcanoes/quakes are just ways to regulate pressure and temperature, nothing to do with the ignorance of man. Just as I made the conscious decision to live on the ring of fire, I made the decision that I'm living in a high quake area and accept it. If the pressure didn't release, worse things would happen.

As you say above I feel these Gods under the rule of Marduk continue their rain of terror right into modern days. He took the form in human minds as the one true God, he split his groups of worshippers into three, the Abrahamic faiths and set them upon each other. all the while destroying all traces of the mother or her worship off the face of the earth. This was to ensure no return to the old ways of natural balance with the mother/universe. To solidify his power base he has millions of human deaths and murders in his name providing him sacrifice to feed his power. As long as the major religions are at each others throats there is no way to brake his control of the world around us and usher in an age where nature, humanity and technology can evolve into a new era of harmony.

That is really pretty.

I think we need to be concerned about the earth, but not necessarily need to worship it and become in tune with it. I'm sure there are forces that cause natural disasters but for the most part I find all of this to be a cycle. If you read ''the secret doctrine'' by Helena Petrova Blavatsky, it takes about the poles shifting to the equator and the equator going to the poles and the entire world going crazy with the shift. Normally a continent falls (either because the surface crust is weak and it literally collapses in on itself or it will explode due to volcanos) and one rises. The natural disasters to me seem natural... or maybe we are only thinking they are more frequent because we just haven't been studying their activity for that long.

Originally Posted by devakxes

That is really pretty.

I think we need to be concerned about the earth, but not necessarily need to worship it and become in tune with it. I'm sure there are forces that cause natural disasters but for the most part I find all of this to be a cycle. If you read ''the secret doctrine'' by Helena Petrova Blavatsky, it takes about the poles shifting to the equator and the equator going to the poles and the entire world going crazy with the shift. Normally a continent falls (either because the surface crust is weak and it literally collapses in on itself or it will explode due to volcanos) and one rises. The natural disasters to me seem natural... or maybe we are only thinking they are more frequent because we just haven't been studying their activity for that long.

Interesting. I just had this conversation this morning actually with someone who is quite concerned about the resent events. I do also believe these disasters are natural and just part of the cycles. However, we also need to keep in mind there is more footage than ever before and it reaches us faster.

Originally Posted by devakxes

That is really pretty.

I think we need to be concerned about the earth, but not necessarily need to worship it and become in tune with it. I'm sure there are forces that cause natural disasters but for the most part I find all of this to be a cycle. If you read ''the secret doctrine'' by Helena Petrova Blavatsky, it takes about the poles shifting to the equator and the equator going to the poles and the entire world going crazy with the shift. Normally a continent falls (either because the surface crust is weak and it literally collapses in on itself or it will explode due to volcanos) and one rises. The natural disasters to me seem natural... or maybe we are only thinking they are more frequent because we just haven't been studying their activity for that long.

Not exactly from what I read, atlantis sunk because the density of the water became less than that of the land. The theory for this is that methane was the cause.