Which is more effective?
Which is more effective?
Subjective question that is impossible to answer in an objective way. I personally have never had any success with djinn, probably because I find Arabic ceremonial magic to be far too formal for my tastes. There is also something to be said for the satisfaction of doing it for oneself as opposed to having an entity do it for you.
I have been quite the opposite the djinn success has been better for me than spells casting.
I normally have a 50% success with spells and 75% Success with Djinn
but thats me Im still kind of a Novice. I have only had my djinn for about a week.
A novice probably should not be working with summoned entities period. You lack the mental discipline and habits of mind to properly maintain control. Djinn, regardless of what the modern fluff may say, can be remarkably dangerous and of wildly differing temperaments. It should also be noted that most summonings are intended for a short term, a few hours usually but a few days at the most. A Djinn kept too long from its home, or repeatedly summoned away from its duties will likely grow angry. My advice is get some training in basic meditation to tone your mind and strengthen your will then start learning ceremonial evocation. You don't dive into the deep end of the pool if you can barely swim.
djinn imo are daemons, we could get into dispute over religious beliefs such as the Koran view, an even within Islam there is much debate an there details. they are seen as evil by Muslims for there use of magic, and what they see as scary; the shadow in the dark so to speak, and the djinn puts a face to the fear. There is nothing worse than an unknown enemy. the goetia are djinn or at least he had supposedly 72 djinn bound to his ring(coincidence i think not).
the pre-Islamic djinn were nature spirits that could shapshift, and drive travelers mad. they were spirits with a mischievous nature, and with supernatural abilities. they really remind me of the pan's, satyr's, and nymph's.
I think summoning has its dangers yes, but is easier than some spells. in essence one summons so the summoned can cast spells for them, or impart knowledge. but there are within many works of summoning adequate safe guards such as binding the summon within a place or just calling with scrying, as well as safe guarding ones self within a circle. when summoning don't be timid be assertive , in action an thought; an the only way to really do that is to know what your doing.
what would you do if some one held you captive for a long period of time, me when I saw an opening I would attack my captor an try to escape. now if i was summoned by my king for advice and then given license to depart I am doing my service, but if my king puts me in a cell and comes to me when he wants something and never lets me go...I think you see where we are going.
Man is invited to question, discover, explore,
and manipulate the world around him and use it for his benefit.
Yes I know, But Djinn are a servant race. (I read this on a website)
What does it mean when they say that this spirit Manifests in Shades? Do they mean shadows or ghosts?
Last edited by dustin255; 05-10-2010 at 01:04 AM.
What does it mean when they say that this spirit Manifests in Shades? Do they mean shadows or ghosts?
Technically in SOME ghosts they could control them for their benefit.
However they probably mean shadows.
Those who Fall will find their Heaven
and will always be adored.
In Plaudo Atri Matris!
love the spartacus referance! and i just wanted to emphisize that djinn are much older than you are so even though you have power over them dont take it lightly...... imagine a three year old telling you what to do.
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