Thread: ToS

devakxes: just so you know, I am a member of the TOS

Concerning the Subjective Universe getting old . . . indeed, stasis is the Apophic enemy of the Setian.

Xeper has been Re-Uttered since Dr. Aquino first Uttered it.

A good discussion!

There is no law beyond Do what thou wilt - You are God
Do that and no other shall nay - Live like one
Love is the Law, Love under Will - Fulfill your highest dreams

I know its because I can ignorant but I've found nothing new in Setianism. Xeper sounds like K&C of HGA... The Prince of Darkness could be in N.O.X.. does it all boil down semantics in the end?

The attainment (in my understanding) is different in the end.
For example, the Ipsissimus in Thelema is able to perceive the infinite. The difference in them is that the Ipsissimus in Setianism/Luciferianism tends to perceive the infinite as well but still retains one's identity. It is akin to Set slaying Apep. Apep in this case being chaos and infinity. The Setian keeps one's self separate from it so it doesn't dissolve but gladly throws one's self into Apep so that it can repeat the process of separation and grow from the interactions. The Ipsissimus of Thelema just unites with the infinite and becomes a vessel of it. Different side for the same coin. However, I could have described that better - you are correct. In Thelema - the idea is that the goal is to unite with the Infinite. Lavey Satanism's ''Indulge'' was more of a means of showing us what ''greatness'' is and to basically help manifest ''do what thou will''. Xeper however... is not about uniting with the infinite but becoming infinite (or a power of the infinite) in your own right.

And I am sorry if I have offended you EtuMalku. I don't know if the understanding of every member is the same within the Temple of Set. That is why I kept mentioning the Order of Leviathan and the article that I have attained. I guess is what I am trying to say is - I don't know what the similarities in beliefs are that unite Setians. I've a general grasp from reading the website and from studying the left hand path itself. However, I don't know everything. I was just trying to help explain from what knowledge I know. As I said, I have great respect for you and your wisdom.