Thread: Understanding The Dark Brothers

Dearest "D. Plajeran". I understand that your views are valid, for you, (or maybe you are just playing at `adversary`?), however, your notes are quite simplistic, almost teenage in essence. There are many variations on the Sinister Way, some not as easily accessible as merely pressing a few clicks in a Net browser! Nevertheless, your theory was ammusing. Thanks!

this thread is very instering i am impressed. cant wate to read more.

So really what your saying here is that if you go to the lowest qlippothic shell, you will enter into Kether? The usefulness of the cup is in it's emptiness?

Your tone reminds me of church sermons. I dig it.

Originally Posted by Dean Plejaren

Great plans are made to implement the easy way out the band aid temporary solution for a greater cost later on.....Extreme effort and ambition toward Skipping genuine efforts required to reap the productive results. Avoiding solutions but seemingly reaping temporary unearned results for a short period of time at a greater expense later. Taking great strides to dealing with problems later, and delaying the inevitable at a greater price. Immediate short term gratification over more efficient long term results. Over indulgence with physical urges. Rejection of spiritual purity. Denile is truth. Using physical materiality to sustain ones life and mindset. Creating problems to offer solutions which are traps to greater problems. Taking the burden away to increase the dependency. Lifting the responsibility to disempower. Taking the role of leader to prevent correct leadership.

Down this path you feel the hate rise up within you. Deception becomes integrated into your personality until honesty is something forgotten. A memory dissolved. You bleed more and more alone the deeper you go. Suffering takes hold. Right up until your world becomes very small sluggish and self focused, you are unable to look at others. You must look inward only. You find yourself hoarding the light from outside you, and dragging it out of other people. Everything is now a threat and a sin. Everything is against you.

Suffering is now your goal. Misery and horror your sanctuary. Fear and violence melts your heart. But Catastrophic boredom and emptiness fill your world. Compassion and empathy is something alien and foreign. But hurting others is your strategy to go deeper into the apathy of disassociation. The absence of fear suffering, hate, and misery denotes a weakness to be destroyed. Love is hell that burns you must defeat it with the glory of the fear hate, restriction, broken dreams and the tortured screams. Happiness is truly repulsive and decaying. Materiality, stench, hypocrisy and danger is the measure of ones progress. Obsession with dieing, suicide, poison and sickness rule the focus. Blackness is the treasure, tears are the fruits of life.
Pain sought after like precious stones. Anger is strength. Truth is a means to deception. Happiness is a means to misery. Intelligence is a means to insanity. Reality is a means to delusion. Victory is a means to humiliation. Humility is a means to pride. Good deeds are a means to mistakes. Love is a means to greater hatred later on. Flattery is a means to bloat others self importance. Courage is a means to increase the situation of the fear at a later time. Honesty is a means to deception. Revealing is a means to disguise even further. Unity, co-operation, and sharing is a means to division, stealing, and domination. Admiration is for whoever does all this to the greatest degree in the most efficient manner. Disgust is for those with noble intentions. War is waged on those who are peace loving. Freedom is a disease to be cured with fascism. Utopia is cancer. Abundance is a tragedy. Compliments are for setting up greater insults later. Gifts are rubbish to be disposed of. Family is the enemy. All relationships are for the purpose of mutilation. Censorship and rejection is respect. Powerlessness is a gift. Ugliness is adored. Blindness is a haven for regression. Breakdowns are lovely. Guilt and shame is a great honor. Selfishness is the best achievement. The greater the destruction and degree of the killing is the measure of the sophistication of the adept.

This is some basic psychology of the satanic path.

As for the above thinking, I have read similar dysfunctional ideas in some satanic cult books and tabloids - but this just shows how distorted Satanism has become in the eyes of the public.

To me a person who lives to the above would need psychiatric help at the best and at the worst be dead from suicide. What many forget is satanism predates christianity and so IT IS NOT the opposite of a Christian and Noble life, but rather the aliance with the darkness. That means a very different thing. Satan as a life form is the personification of such.

Even amongst so called Satanists there is disagreement as to wheether Satan is a real being or just "the evil within" a person. Some christian groups are the same. The Christedelphians beleive he is not a real person but "the evil or imperfection inside you".

Yet all forms of belief in Satan from pre-christians times teach he is a real living being of some form. One of the foremost beliefs of Satan is that he does not require worship and is against any idea of such. For some it evolves into self worship by ego gratification. Many materialists do this automatically with no spiritual comprehension what-so-ever. Satan worship in reality is a paradox. Only Gods require and expect worship.

In order to really understand this whole satan thing one has to go back to basics. That means researching the pre-christian era, and the origin of how the gods came into being from the first war with The Ancient Ones/ Great Old Ones. Once you do that, we are then talking another language.

From what I've read so far...this is much like what a donkey fart would translate to in the e-world.

"True Satanism", much like "True Paganism" and "True Christianity" is a matter of who you are and it should always be remembered that it is only your truth. This should be taken publicly as a courtesy (You might say your way is better, but allow some room for doubt that it is) if you don't believe it is actually true.

I think the guy talking about "True Satanism" should realize that Satan as an archetype is about opposition to some greater order...and Satanists seem to have a problem with how sheepish the "Xtians" are and such, but the belief in "True Satanism" seems to run counter to this criticism.

You're entirely wrong, a true Satanist accepts misery as part of our "life" on "Earth" but transcends it by accepting that there won't always be the same flowers we see today. Happiness is in our hearts and minds, transcending everything we touch, see and hear. Love is Satan and Satan is Love. You never experienced a true Satanic vision did you?

Satan is not bad, he only encourages people to be bad and so reap their karma and learn. He doesn'r "forgive and forget" - why should anybody? That would be violation of an important part of you.

I'm new to the forums, but certainly not new to the Left Hand Path, so here's my injection of thoughts.

Lokia_Zos: I'm on the same page with you.

Although I find a few ideas in the original post to be quite relevant, it is far from my version of Satanism (using this as a broad term for now). The idea that there should be a "true satanism" is as revolting as any other so-called "truths", at least for me. Seems getting Satanists to agree to a universal anything is a bit like trying to herd cats. You'll have those that agree and will follow along, of course. Doesn't make said path any less relevant for those engaged within, I suppose.

Antinomian: There's a word I haven't heard in a few years.

Honestly i thin dean is what i call cannon meat,your are being destroyed and you will learn nothing from this,true satanism rejects illusions and this is what you live by,i don't know in what you tapped in but it destroys you and using you ,this is not satanist is just madness,the purpose of satanism is to help human beings evolve not to destroy ourselfs ,you talk about the christian Satan not our true Father Satan.
I think something found your weakness and now is just exploiting you for energy or just fun.If others are as foolish as you ............they will have the same faith.(just an subjective opinion)

Dean,

As someone who has followed the satanist path for some time now...

What you are saying makes perfect sense.

This is a very deep and fairly accurate analysis of the condition this path creates.

Some idea development though...

I think what you mean by suffering is willed feeling, a light that comes from darkness. Its essence is pure, it permeates through any barrier and at once makes you one with the world around you and any willed effect on it is instantaneous and absolute. Which breaks the whole comfortable spirit/ego separation idea. So, love is in effect torture, because it subjects one to the raw experience of a certain conscious being one happens to observe in a bonding manner. And any thing one observes, changes. And change can be frightening. Particularly when it comes from somewhere without notable direction...as is the case there, essentially you're tacking on an extra dimension to the subject's experience. So one who observes through dark light is seen as a monster. And to become subject to this raw idea is to become it, to become a monster.

Anyway, so the idea of an ego entering the spiritual realm is counterintuitive. Usually a guide, a higher self, or some form of substitute is used. Not for someone who is left-handing it, the way I see it. See, the lower conscious self is a linear, closed system. Higher consciousness is a circular, open system. So to combining the two modes results in a circular, mitigated open system.

The experience of it is this...well, everything all at once. The linear mind picks and chooses its experience...once encountering something that becomes "suffering" simply stops on it and it grows distant and fades away.

However, in an increasingly circular, closed system of consciousness, stopping on something keeps you stuck there. And progression simply leads you back to the same point. And so once stuck the system must open to input (chaos) to correct the misappropriation. Or in other words, the first act of Will.

And long story short, Will is simply a mitigating device that allows one to maintain a dualistic and linear identity in a circular system of consciousness open to chaos.

Or on the Right Hand, a non-dualistic and linear identity is a mitigating device that allows one to maintain a circular system of chaos open to Will.

The idea is positive energy disperses and negative energy focuses. If your mitigating device is will, then you want focus. If your mitigating device is an identity, then you want dispersion.

Or you could mix and match. Think about it

Originally Posted by EtuMalku

Satan is a personification of the Judaic word al-satan (who borrowed it from the Persians' Shaiten) meaning adversary. The word is used more as a descriptive noun or pronoun. A fallen tree preventing a husband from getting to his injured wife would be considered a tree of shaiten, more or less.
Shaiten did not become Satan until much later where Jewish sects / tribes such as the Essenes began referring to anyone not an Essene as a Shaiten. Still further the Roman Christian church decided it was time to personify shaiten into Satan and have Him become the scapegoat for all evil in the Christian world.

There is no Satan

Hello, EtuMalku. It's been awhile. I wonder if you still visit. How's your research going?

I seem to find the tracks you've left when i come back to the internet for my short visits. You sure do get around.

Dark Brothers.....try not to upset them is probably good advice.