Thread: Do you think Satanism is just reverse Christianity?

Originally Posted by Wulzirik

It's a logical fallacy to try and apply that to our realm, here and now.

Forgive me...in looking at your example, I thought logical fallacy was fair game.

You can use a screwdriver for many things, though not always very efficiently. But sometimes the screwdriver shines...when something needs screwed.
Of course Hitler is an exhausted tool, but sometimes it's the best illustration. This is particularly true in the case that one wishes to convey an extreme polar point. In the common schema, it is Hitler vs. Jews, just as it is God vs. Satan. Why could I not draw these comparisons? Why are not divine enemies paralleled in the mundane world? It's no less logical to assume that all people are ultimately one, and that all people are part of God, if we are already assuming that all gods are one God and that the whole of being is God. No? Hitler eats the Jews; God eats Hitler; Brahman eats God and Brahman gets carried away on the turtle's back.

Something that can not be forgotten in the world of the esoteric: if we are willing to embrace the ridiculous, prepare to embrace it all.

As much as I hate to admit this, morality is relative. I'd like for there to be universal laws of respect that were unbreakable, but this is not the case. There is so much corruption (evidently a common theme here) in the world, human and non, that pays absolutely no heed to what you or I think is right or wrong. The fact is, the world is gray. The world is what you make of it. In that respect, there is no difference between our world and the world of the divine.

the milky way is the moon/ring system of the entire universe, with earth as the actual center of this moon system of the rest of the living universe. it is a place where microorganisms exist and people die and feel pain. I think that is unnatural. we all could have existed before and still. somewhere else

Originally Posted by chronazon

the milky way is the moon/ring system of the entire universe, with earth as the actual center of this moon system of the rest of the living universe. it is a place where microorganisms exist and people die and feel pain. I think that is unnatural. we all could have existed before and still. somewhere else

Don't forget that Black Hole

I was brought up a Roman Catholic, as a child I has visions of fire descending upon me and trance states in church. Now I have the same trances with meditations on Satan and other Gods. I don't think there's a whole lot of difference, only putting a label upon it. It doesn't matter if it's "reverse Christianity" because I don't belive in Jesus any more. It's all about what you get out of it. If someone feels insulted if you apply the label "reverse Christianity" it's his or her fault. No need to be touchy about that. That's the same as Christians who are insulted if you tell em "God is dead". Who cares what anybody thinks about you? That would be lifting them up to your plane: They don't deserve that.

I don't hate Christians, I only think Satanism is a separate path, bringing together all the best of Wicca, Crowley, the O.T.O. and other sources to a deep dark place of transformation - the source of all Live, Leviathan, which is kundalini in your own soul. Melting down material from the finest magicians into a true and dark belief system--the system of ecstasy, the Satanic Path!

Yezidis and the cult of Kali predated Christianity by hundreds of years and existed in a world where "Christ" wasn't known at all. The dark angel, Moloch, was worshipped before Jesus. So this phenomenon is OLDER than Christianity.
It can take the forms of mocking christian traditions like abusing hosts and crosses, but you see even that means that Christian beliefs don't matter at all

Ok. My turn.
Satan is the dude that puts our butts in check. Period. He is like the accusing attorney. Scrupulous honesty. Even though he has been called the father of lies. The only thing that keeps him in check is absolute truth.
He can be your best friend or your worst enemy. It depends on how "honest" you are.
Loki, Pan, Set, Coyote,... all of these forms,... they have the same function. They will trick you, or seem to. But, they allow you to trick yourself. You can have all the rope you want. Just don't hang yourself with it. You are not punished for your sins. You are punished BY your sins.
It is really very simple and logical.
That is my opinion.

Originally Posted by ShinobiBombay

Ok. My turn.
Satan is the dude that puts our butts in check. Period. He is like the accusing attorney. Scrupulous honesty. Even though he has been called the father of lies. The only thing that keeps him in check is absolute truth.
He can be your best friend or your worst enemy. It depends on how "honest" you are.
Loki, Pan, Set, Coyote,... all of these forms,... they have the same function. They will trick you, or seem to. But, they allow you to trick yourself. You can have all the rope you want. Just don't hang yourself with it. You are not punished for your sins. You are punished BY your sins.
It is really very simple and logical.
That is my opinion.

yes he has been called the father of lies but in my opinion he is a safe haven for those who are persecuted by the christians who go to an extent to condemn the unlucky to an spiritually damned hell so to speak, he isnt like the accusing attorney in other words. Loki, set and all the forms you speak of are all the classic tricksters of the Earth, but the only way to be their worst enemies is to trick them by using them for your own selfish gain. But i dont believe satanism is just reverse christianity; that is what it have been condemned to be thought of, as with the anti-cross it is just a symbol it has no meaning but it does hold a sertian extent of power, as with the pentagram.

Originally Posted by Lady Dunsany

I do not believe in the Christian God or Satan that is depicted in the bible. I do believe in a divine higher power that is the force in the Universe that we as a collective whole created. Satan to me is a name that was made up to keep the masses in line. Demons I believe just the lower part of us that we have created. Angels to me were always here, and some where some how they made themselves known throughout the thoughts of humans. The Angels to me are not under a deity they are here on their own, as I said in our collective consciousness we created them as all were created. This may sound arrogant but it is not meant to be. It is just my beliefs, I can not speak for anyone else.

After many thoughts on this life, I came to this conclusion too.
Every human beeing has it's own energy.In time, people started to belive in a comun divinity, and the energy has been concetrated. In thousand years, this energy reached a great power ammount.
But I think we know almost nothing about Gods, Christian God, Satan, the real Science of life and the human purpose.
If we want, they can be reverse, if we don't they won't.
It all depends on us.

Most of the theistic Satanists are not reverse christians. There are some forms of theistic Satanism that can be said to be reversed christians. These people worship the Satan of the bible. The only difference is that they believe Satan and the anti-Christ will win the last wars.

I don't think each branch is reverse Christian, but it is anti-Christian, and that is the more relevant point.

A lot of Satanic practices strikes me a particularly aggressive form of shamanic practice embedded within Western iconography. Not something I'd want to get involved in.

state your belief ?

Originally Posted by Goth_Queen

To me, the thought is absurd!! Demons were Gods of their own accord and existed way before the Christian religion started. Whether you believe it is just reversed or not, post your thoughts about the subject? I'm still kind of new here and I want to get to know the members more

Good question. There are varieties of Satanism, just like there are varieties of nearly every existing religion. One variety of Satanism is "reverse Christianity," and I do not hesitate to label myself as a theistic, "reverse Christian" Satanist. I take the Hebrew-Christian scriptures very literally, and worship Lord Satan as the adversary, the light-bearer, opposed to the oppressive Yahweh/Jehovah/Jesus.

Hail Satan!