Thread: How old is Satanism..really?

I guess most of us have established on my previous threads that Satanism is not a creation of the "Church of Satan" and that there is VALID Satanism outside of that "church". Also, that Satanism is not "reverse Christianity", and that Satanism didn't begin when Christianity invented the Christian Devil. So...when did Satanism really start? There are ancient religions where horned gods were worshipped, including deities that now have been demonized by the Catholic Church. Satanism is very old, and believed by some Satanists to be the first religion, and its stated on a couple web pages I found in the past...but, I'd like to know what the fellow occultforums.net population thinks about it. And besides, I haven't really posted anything in a while so here is my next contribution to the site.

Have fun.
Hails.

When one misunderstands what the Prince of Darkness is, then it is without doubt they will not convey 'Him' correctly to themself or to others.

I find nothing malevolent about satanism, this thinking is purely of Christian propaganda.


EM

Perhaps you could direct me to which page of the Tao Te Ching that this Latin term is found?

Interesting, I tend to understand Duality in a Hermetic setting, where both polar extremes are one and the same thing, not opposing forces.

''Satan'' as a being/force/symbol might have existed before christianity, but from what I understand Satanism as a religion has typically been around since the knights templar, though others disagree and say that the baphomet worship was actually christian propaganda in order for the pope to justify slaying those who were equal in power to him. In this case, satanism as a religion is only 200-300 years old.

I don't understand how the age of something makes it more valid. Cavemen lived in caves and made fire out of flint... i don't understand how something new is less valid.

Perhaps we need to define the word Satanism for all intent and purpose of this discussion.
Satanism= ?

Devakxes, I never said that Satanism's validity was determined by how many years its been around and in practice. Where are you getting this from?

Originally Posted by EtuMalku

Perhaps we need to define the word Satanism for all intent and purpose of this discussion.
Satanism= ?

The belief and worship of Satan as an actual deity....since I've posted this in the "Theistic Satanism" section.

Originally Posted by Goth_Queen

The belief and worship of Satan as an actual deity....since I've posted this in the "Theistic Satanism" section.

I'm sorry, I should have been more aware.

In that case the worshiping of Satan can only be as old as the Belief system that created this personification of the 'Adversary'.

EM

satanism is older than civilized life, though it does find a new home within. the name satanism is new, but have not the ideals been there all along?

how about a unification of duality


By dagion